With all respect why would you adopt such a name? Amusing as the cart thing is it is it's too trivial a subject for a name.
Anyways, welcome to the forum.
i talked with my pusher, puller i mean, she's really pissed off i opened up a twitter account she's threatening to drive her car over my frame if i misbehave and more, so much for my point of view.
after much deliberation, we decided she could count her field service minutes only if people see my pretty logo (jw.org), finally she took me off the roof-rack and returned me to my right place, passenger side.
in the passenger's seat of our car, i smile at the homeless people walking the streets, "can we pull over and talk to them, can you buy them something to eat?
With all respect why would you adopt such a name? Amusing as the cart thing is it is it's too trivial a subject for a name.
Anyways, welcome to the forum.
i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.
you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.
"you know, you should really get back to meetings.
I was in my teenage years during the 1975 fiasco. I was not much of a '75 person, more of a 1914+generation believer but I still took it somewhat seriously.
Two things about '75 stood out.
First was the mid-week meeting. They were reading from the kingdom ministry paper. It was the part where they said that there where "reports of brothers selling their homes and spending the remaining time available pioneering".
Then there was Freddie the chronological voodoo priest. I went to a meeting at the forum stadium in Inglewood, California (where they played basketball) where Freddie gave a talk on 1975. There was a packed audience with seats at the floor of the court (10,000?).
It was a long talk where he started with the creation of the universe, went through human history - a la Bible - and climaxed at 1975 which he explained in detail. And there was a detail about '75 that I never hear mentioned amongst the 'Apostate' community. It was the "Adam and Eve gap".
The Adam and Eve gap was the time period between the creation of Adam and the creation of Eve. It was only when Adam were both together that the 6,000 year period began and it would affect the beginning of the Millennium - the last 1,000 year of God's final 'creative day of 7,000. That Adam and Eve gap could have been months or years (actually up to 130 years before Seth's birth minus the amount of time it took for Cain and Abel to grow until one killed the other).
Freddie explained in meticulous detail how the Adam and Eve gap could affect the 'Great Tribulation. Based on his explanation the tribulation could actually start within several months to several years after October of 1975. On a bizarre note, even though that gap could have lasted for decades Freddie said that it would not. The reason? If Adam had no Eve for several decades he would have been tempted into bestiality. Yes, that was his phrasing. I actually recorded that but I don't know what happened to the recording cassette.
This was the type of reasoning that kept me from wearing orthopedic braces to correct my scoliosis. To this day I walk with a crooked back.
so, i am genuinely wondering if the above is possible nowdays?.
with the changes in the power structure of co's, the changes in gb directives re never questioning "jehovah's appointed channel etc", i wonder if "disciplne can be given out in absence?.
i know that several elders in our cong have little "discussions" about my apparant slackening off, and would love to take action against me... they have tried to chat with me but that has been shot down.. so i wonder if they could just make a decision without me being present for it?
I was df'd in absentia. Not even an invitation. At least you're no longer stuck in a rut.
is it an outside source?.
an inside job?
maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.
millie, I found something interesting at http://www.silentlambs.org/Denmarklawsuit.htm.
"The Jehovah’s Witness Public Relations Official, J. R. Brown actually suggested to media that the reason members were disfellowshipped was due to possible sexual sins or theft. As a result of these comments, Joe and Barbara Anderson filed a $20 million dollar lawsuit for slander and the reversal of the disfellowshipping decree."
It makes me think that they had PR men all along. Still, I believe that the changes in the Watchtower came from another PR, one that specializes in this kind of stuff. The Governing Body must have been desperate in seeking and following advice.
By the way, can you provide a link to the Mormon version of Caleb and Sophia?
is it an outside source?.
an inside job?
maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.
I have nothing verifiable but I'm sure that it is a 'worldly' PR agency. The Governing Body simply do not have the imagination to come up with these things.
For instance, members of the GB were using humor in their assembly talks. I doubt they thought of that themselves, quite the contrary they must feel embarrassed, especially the ones that are no good at it, but go long with it. And their subordinate 'helpers' convincing them to crack jokes and get the GB to actually go along with it? No way.
Too many things are happening all at once. It's a well thought out and organized plan. It's outside help I'm sure.
in watchtower world... magic is evil.....from satan!
the wbt$ video "become jehovahs friend"... is about caleb and his sparlock warrior wizard toy... the lesson is "magic is evil"... .
in the wbt$ video 'if you could see what i see"... your taken though the day of a wbt$ literature "cart with a heart"... it has a home... it thinks..it can see..it hears..it sings..it can feel!!...
in watchtower world... magic is evil.....from satan!
the wbt$ video "become jehovahs friend"... is about caleb and his sparlock warrior wizard toy... the lesson is "magic is evil"... .
in the wbt$ video 'if you could see what i see"... your taken though the day of a wbt$ literature "cart with a heart"... it has a home... it thinks..it can see..it hears..it sings..it can feel!!...
And if the literature cart goes apostate what would it display? Crisis of Conscience, In Search of Christian Freedom, The Gentile Times Reconsidered etc.
And where would it display them. You guessed it, right in front of the Kingdom Hall.
I wonder what songs would it sing.in watchtower world... magic is evil.....from satan!
the wbt$ video "become jehovahs friend"... is about caleb and his sparlock warrior wizard toy... the lesson is "magic is evil"... .
in the wbt$ video 'if you could see what i see"... your taken though the day of a wbt$ literature "cart with a heart"... it has a home... it thinks..it can see..it hears..it sings..it can feel!!...
flipper again.
personally my all time favorite song?
stairway to heaven by led zeppelin.one of my top favorite groups ,too.
Sounds of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel. It resonated with my moody periods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCNwgzM2rQ&feature=player_detailpage
it happened again like in july when i talked to an elder and his wife about child abuse, but this time i got a hold of rank and file members who fortunately i was able to play like a fiddle as they had no idea what they were up against here.
so brother middle age ex-hippie convert ( as he told me later ) and sister middle age hair in a bun offered me the awake on death or our view of death.
i graciously accepted gaining their trust saying yes, i had close loved ones who had died over the years but didn't know if i believed in a resurrection or hereafter.